Magic with Jey Jeyendran

How does podcasting serve as a medium for creativity, self-expression, and transformation, and what challenges and insights arise from engaging in this art form?

Podcasting emerges as both a blank canvas and a stage for personal transformation.

“It’s the tricky thing about podcasting, is that it’s got a really, super-low barrier to entry, but a super-high barrier to continuation.” ~ Jey Jeyendran (7:23)

Episode

The discussion begins with an exploration of podcasting as a creative and transformative medium. It highlights the realization that podcasting is more than a simple extension of oneself; it involves curating and presenting a version of oneself that aligns with the needs of the audience. This performative aspect is juxtaposed with the authenticity often touted as essential in podcasting.

Another key topic is the unique challenges inherent in podcasting. While the barrier to entry is low, maintaining momentum and overcoming “pod fade” proves significantly harder. The conversation underscores the importance of feedback, both as a measure of growth and as a motivational tool. However, podcasting often lacks sufficient avenues for such feedback, which can leave creators feeling unmoored.

Jey and Craig also touch on the joy and playfulness that can be rediscovered in podcasting. Through low-stakes exercises like creating short recordings, participants can reconnect with the essence of creative expression without the pressure of perfection. This emphasis on enjoying the process rather than fixating solely on the end product is framed as critical for sustaining passion and avoiding burnout.

Takeaways

Podcasting as a blank slate — A medium requiring creators to blend performance and authenticity effectively.

The challenge of continuation — The difficulty of maintaining podcasting momentum despite its low entry barrier.

Importance of feedback — The role of meaningful feedback in driving improvement and combating doubt.

Embracing playfulness — Rediscovering joy through low-pressure creative exercises.

The transformative aspect — Becoming the version of oneself that fits the podcasting persona.

The focus on process — Loving aspects of the creation process to sustain long-term engagement.

Resources

Radiolab — A podcast known for creating immersive soundscapes.

This American Life — A podcast blending narrative storytelling and unique perspectives.

Derek Sivers — Mentioned for his insight on performance and persona in creative work.

Stephen Pressfield — Referenced for his concept of the “shadow career” and creative pursuits.

Grant Cardone’s Podcast — A source of energy and motivation, particularly for overcoming inertia.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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You two made an oustanding episode! I enjoyed it so much I’ll repeat it for sure.

@Jey is the audio for the interview with that psychologist still available somewhere? Or is there somewhere where her work is available? Sounds fascinating.

Go, go, go!

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You are very kind @GermanWithNicole

This is the episode (#16) from my first show Productivity Heaven. The guest is Rani Bains - just an incredible guest. I’ve uploaded it to Soundcloud.

Productivity Heaven was my first show created while a student on the Akimbo Podcasting Workshop 4. I learned so much during that first show which was a mix of face to face and Zoom interviews. This was face to face.

During this particular taping I had both mics (Samson 2QU) connected to a Zoom H6 field recorder. I gave Rani headphones and she was fine. But I could not hear anything via my headphones. Managed not to panic as the audio meters on my Zoom showed the mics were recording fine but I couldn’t hear her. Turned out I had not pressed my headphone jack hard enough into the socket. But my guest never figured out I was having a heart attack while figuring this all out.

We recorded in her office in the middle of London. Lots of sirens going off and I was happy to keep that noise in. Also from time to time, you can hear a ripple of what sounds like wind chimes - Rani was wearing around 20 wrist bangles on each arm and when she got excited she waved her arms around and created a series of chimes. I thought it was delightful so I kept it in - plus I didn’t have the skills to remove it anyway! My point is that I learned to relax and not worry about getting “perfect” sound.

Also, I started to interrupt my guest to probe further. Before that, I asked a question and then shut up because I thought the audience didn’t want to hear me. Realised that a conversational approach was much better.

I could go on with other things I learned! But I guess what I love about podcasting is that every episode is a lesson. I wouldn’t have it any other way!

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Thank you so much @Jey ! I already listened to it once and I’m going to listen to it again. She’s truly remarkable, and I learned a lot from this episode.

“Every episode is a lesson.” That’s very true. It’s true for the listener as well as the host/producer.

Next year I might start adding interviews to the podcast, and @craigconstantine 's community podcast, this interview and a host of others have given me some great ideas for what I want to do with it. If/when.

Thanks again for sharing this. Very generous of you.

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Thank you for sharing this Nicole. The response to Jey’s episode has been insane. By far the most-mentioned person when I ask the guests who they wanted to hear.

I’m finishing up an article from Elisa Graf’s episode, (https://forum.podcaster.community/t/craig-constantine-writing-articles-from-podcast-transcripts/771/4 [note, that’s a Supporting Members only link].) Once I have that published, I’ll start writing the companion article for this episode. :slight_smile:

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@craigconstantine @Jey What’s the one question I should have asked you? Brilliant! I learned so much listening to this brief 20 minutes. I have not heard anyone mention - you have to be in love with podcasting, or at least some part of it, to make room for it.
Thank you both.

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Thanks @Jayne. It’s so kind of you to take the time to say :pray:

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