# A wrinkle with OP3 statistics

**URL:** <https://forum.podcaster.community/t/a-wrinkle-with-op3-statistics/4498>\
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**Created:** [April 9, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.podcaster.community/t/a-wrinkle-with-op3-statistics/4498 "2025-04-09T13:15:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![craigconstantine](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.podcaster.community/craigconstantine/32/2322_2.png) [@craigconstantine](https://forum.podcaster.community/u/craigconstantine)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.podcaster.community/t/a-wrinkle-with-op3-statistics/4498/1 "2025-04-09T13:15:01Z")

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Here’s something I’ve been trying to sort out for _months…_

Years ago, I started using [OP3](https://op3.dev) (worth reading, it’s a short front-page “what is it?”) prefixes on all four of my shows. I wanted more-nearly IAB standards-compliant statistics than I can get from my self-hosted shows’ Wordpress plugin software, _and_ I really like the idea that OP3 makes the data public so that people (like [podnews.net](http://podnews.net)) can look at the aggregate data which helps **OPEN** podcasting be healthy.

For example, here’s the OP3 stats for Podtalk— prepare to be underwhelmed at how my show performs…

[https://op3.dev/show/a93eaf0a-b175-5200-8a21-33dc673b4899](https://op3.dev/show/a93eaf0a-b175-5200-8a21-33dc673b4899)

**That’s the setup, what’s the problem?**

For many months, the Movers Mindset show’s OP3 statics were sort of frozen. It would show downloads/plays in the day/week/month statistics… but it wasn’t showing activity for my recent episodes—by “recent” I mean the last few that I published in early 20 **24** and then the new ones I’ve started publishing in 2025.

Eventually, I emailed James Cridland (the editor of Podnews) as a last grasp—because there’s no clear way to reach anyone at OP3. (OP3 is a one-person, volunteer-run thing… don’t panic, the parts that cost money are funded by a few of the open-web podcasting big kids.) He copied in the person who runs OP3…

> Hi Craig - I took a look at your show. Looks like OP3 hasn’t been noticing changes to your feed for some time, due to a feed URL change that was made back in March 2024 and OP3’s integration with the directory used under the hood, the podcast index. Honestly, I should tweak my reliance on the index for guids and feeds as well. In any case, should be fixed for new downloads to your show.
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> For historical downloads, the downloads are still measured in OP3, just unallocated to your show. I can rerun matching, but it’s a long and resource-intensive process. Let me rerun for downloads in April at the very least, and I’ll let you know when that’s finished.

To be candid, I don’t fully understand what he’s talking about with OP3 not noticing my Movers Mindset show’s feed URL changes — I **did** change the feed URL, but there’s a redirect, and the new URL is showing in all directories… so, as he 'fessed up, it’s something in OP3.

**Uh, why mention this?**

First, showing our process is what we do around here. 🙂

There’s always been the question of: are these sorts of redirection-based 3rd party stats tracking “safe” — in the sense of when things go wonky, does your show still **play**. YES. All that went wonky was the stats showing with OP3. ([Who listens where?](https://forum.podcaster.community/t/who-listens-where/4159))

Finally, and most importantly…

If you have a problem: Keep poking at it, and keep asking questions.

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**Author:** ![craigconstantine](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.podcaster.community/craigconstantine/32/2322_2.png) [@craigconstantine](https://forum.podcaster.community/u/craigconstantine)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.podcaster.community/t/a-wrinkle-with-op3-statistics/4498/2 "2025-04-10T12:02:01Z")

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John Spurlock, the person at the helm of OP3, updated Movers Mindset’s feed URL and now statistics for the “new” episodes (the ~3 I published since I change the show’s RSS feed URL about a year ago) are showing up.

So on one hand, this feels a little “bleeding edge,” but it’s nice to reach a human who simply fixed it.

On the other hand, compare it to [New Podcast RSS Processing for 5 days on Youtube](https://forum.podcaster.community/t/new-podcast-rss-processing-for-5-days-on-youtube/4474) where another user here on PodComm is struggling to solve a YouTube-related issue and we can’t even figure out who might be able to help 🙂

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**Author:** ![system](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/forum.podcaster.community/system/32/548_2.png) [@system](https://forum.podcaster.community/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.podcaster.community/t/a-wrinkle-with-op3-statistics/4498/3 "2025-05-10T12:02:26Z")

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